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DANIEL 3:15

STUDY WITH US THIS AMAZING VERSE OF SCRIPTURE!

"Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?"    Daniel 3:15

 

 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
II Timothy 2:1

 

DANIEL 3:15 ... LESSON 1:

I have a verse on my heart today!

It is found in the Book of Daniel and has quite a list of unique words in it!

Daniel 3:15 --- "Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?"

I'm sure you recognize the verse.  It's from the account of the three Hebrew young men who were thrown into the burning fiery furnace (by Nebuchadnezzar) because they would not fall down and worship his statue!

Often I've wondered why the Scripture goes to such length to list all the instruments (well, six of them anyway) in the royal orchestra.  Do they have some kind of spiritual significance?

I still don't know for sure the answer to my query, but the other day I studied these musical terms some.  The results are enlightening.

The King wanted these godly boys to fall down and worship him when the "cornet" began to play.  Their godly convictions forbade their doing so.

Look with me briefly at that word:  "cornet."

In Hebrew it's spelled "qeren" and means a horn of some kind.  (Of the 14 times it's used in the King James Bible, it's translated "horn" 10 of those times!  It's "cornet" the other 4 times!)  Also this:  the word is used in no other book in the whole Bible! All 14 times occur in Daniel's prophecy!  (A Book dealing with the last days and standing strong in the face of the hardships that will come at that time!)

According to Strong's Concordance the word "cornet" ("qeren") is derived from a root word which means "to push!"  Or even "to gore!"  Maybe it is so named because it's shaped like an animal's "horn" and could have been used to push or gore other animals!

BUT for these young men the meaning would have been plain enough! 

BOW before this false idol ... or you will be burned, persecuted, PUSHED into a heated fiery furnace ... GORED by the persecuting hand of the King of the greatest nation on earth (at that time)!

Worship the devil and be popular!

OR ... don't bow and be pushed and gored and burned!

Folks, that's still the issue today!  (And perhaps will become more and more the issue in doming days!)

Co-operate and be "fine!"

"Separate" and be "gored!"

Paul was right I believe:  "Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."  2 Timothy 3:12

Fellow Christians ... STAND!  Don't bow!

Regardless of the "horns" of the world's "band!"

Ephesians 6:13 --- "Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand."

Another "application" of this word ("cornet = to push or to gore!") could be as follows.  The devil's crowd (Nebuchadnezzar and company) tried to FORCE the Jewish young men to worship their idolatrous image!  They attempted to "GORE" them into submission!  It is so different with the Holy Spirit of God!  He guides and leads one to Jesus!  He never "bulldozes" His way into a life!  I do believe however that He can create interest and a real desire to know Jesus!)

                                                                             --- Dr. Mike Bagwell

 

 

DANIEL 3:15 ... LESSON 2:

They told the young men to bow and worship the golden statue!

They young men respectfully said NO!

They just would not worship a false god!

They would not obey the sound of the music!

They had been commanded to fall on their faces when the instruments (of the royal orchestra) began playing!

This "orchestra" included the "flutes!" 

Here's the verse in full.  Daniel 3:15 --- "Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?"

Fall down at the sound of the "flutes!"

NO!  They said!

It sounds strange ... but the word "flute" only occurs 4 times in the whole Bible! (That includes English or Hebrew!)  And all 4 of those times is right here in Daniel 3! It is as if the Holy Spirit "adopted" the word just for this Bible event!

What does the word mean, preacher?

In Hebrew it's "mashroqiy" and describes some kind of a musical pipe.  The word comes from a verbal "root" that means "to be shrill or to hiss!"

I know little about music ... but this I can declare:  Very much of a high pitched hissing sound will not be pleasant for long!  THAT will get on your nerves!  It (at least it all alone) will not add much to an orchestra!

By the way, much of the world's music and much of the world's so-called "worship" is ugly and grating to begin with!  Even if it has "pleasure" ... it is very short-lived! Only "for a season!"  (Hebrews 11:25)

The three Hebrew children refused to bow and worship the shrill ugly systems of this lost world!

Also notice that this word for "flute" means "to hiss!"  Friends, what animal "hisses!" To my mind comes the thought:  A snake hisses!  An old serpent!  I'll guarantee you that behind Nebuchadnezzar's music and statue and false worship is ONE power, an evil one, a satanic one, the devil himself! 

It's the same devil that's behind the wicked sensual music of our day too!  (And the man-made worship of modern humanity!)

Thank God someone would not take part in the worship of the satanic system of Daniels' day either!

Now let mw show you quickly one more thing!

If we bow not to the world's music ... must we remain without harmony in our lives!

No!  No!  No!

Listen:

Isaiah 42:3, speaking of Jesus, says:  "A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth."

Then our Lord Himself says of Himself in Matthew 12:20 (quoting Isaiah):  "A bruised reed shall he not break, and smoking flax shall he not quench, till he send forth judgment unto victory."

Twice we are told about this "bruised reed!"  What is it?

It's an old shoot off a reed plant.  BUT this one has been "bruised, stepped on, damaged!  It's useless now!  Throw it away!  Burn it!  Let it be further trodden under foot!

BUT, no!

Here comes a shepherd with his sheep.  They're eating the green grass and drinking by the still waters.

Watch the shepherd.  He see this useless (so we thought) old reed stem!  It's just laying there in the mud!

He picks it up, examines it ... then smiles!

With a sharp pruning knife he begins to work ... cutting away the rough edges and forming the little reed into something useful!

But ... what is it?

Why, it's a reed made into a ... "flute!"  A little musical instrument.

Soon the shepherd is playing his little creation, making harmonious and beautiful sounds to his flock and his father who is watching from afar!

A useless plant (the reed) made into a musical instrument to play to the glory of the father!

Do Believers remain without music ... since we refuse the worship of the world? 

No!

We, by our Shepherd, have been plucked out of the mire and much of this world and fashioned from brokenness and uselessness into a thing of beauty ... designed to make music and praise to our Heavenly Father!

Jesus was (and still is) like that!

He won't even throw away a little bruised reed!  He will not trample it further!  He "saves" it and "uses" it to make heavenly harmony!

Praise God!

I'm so glad these three Hebrew young men (Daniel 3) didn't bow to the devil!

They instead made "music" in another way ... the music of obedience to God!

May we do the same!

                                                                   --- Dr. Mike Bagwell

 

 

DANIEL 3:15 ... LESSON 3:

The King said for them to bow down and worship!

Yet the three Jewish young men refused to do so!

They would not worship an idol! They would not respect graven images!

They would not obey when the music sounded!

Hereís the verse that interests me. Listen to Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel 3:15 --- "Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?"

Notice that there are 6 instruments listed here in the royal orchestra. These Believers would NOT obey the sounds of the "harps!"

This particular word is NOT the usual word for "harp" in the Bible.  In Hebrew it is spelled "qiythros" and is used ONLY in Daniel chapter 3 (four times in Daniel 3 ... verses 5, 7, 10 and 15). The normal Hebrew word for "harp" is "kinnor" (meaning "to twang") and is translated "harp" 42 times!

"Qiythros" is defined as some kind of a stringed instrument. My lexicon says thatís itís a lyre. But I didnít know what a "lyre" was. Hereís the dictionary meaning: "A stringed instrument of the harp family having two curved arms connected at the upper end by a crossbar, used to accompany a singer or reciter of poetry, especially in ancient Greece."  Perhaps you can better picture one in your mind now.

The next thing to do is see how the Holy Spirit uses our word in the Old Testament. Hereís the first time youíll find it: Genesis 4:21 --- "And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ." The harp is originally an invention of a descendant of wicked Cain! Itís origins are encased in ungodliness it seems!

However, do remember that God can redeem a harp too! In heaven John the Apostle saw this:  "And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps." (Revelation 14:2)  Here harps are used in praise and worship of Almighty God!

The next use of the harp in Scripture is in Genesis 31:27 where Laban asks Jacob: "Wherefore didst thou flee away secretly, and steal away from me; and didst not tell me, that I might have sent thee away with mirth, and with songs, with tabret, and with harp?" Old Laban is lying for sure! He uses the guise of music and a party to declare an untruth!

So far (in its first two Biblical uses) the harp  has a background of wickedness and is used in a hypocritical manner! That alone should tell us something!

But quickly letís look at the only New Testament use of the word harp. In 1Corinthians 14:7 Paul asks: "And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped?" The implication is that the harp can give an untrue sound!

I believe the lesson of the harp is this.

Christian, donít fall down and worship the ways of the world!  Their "harps" may induce you to do so! BUT those harps can be very misleading and hypocritical!

Donít fall down before the sound of hypocrisy!

Many have done so!

I have heard professing Baptists say: "Iíll not go to church. Itís full of hypocrites!"

Thatís letting the sound of hypocrisy knock you down!

Others have declared: "Iíve never seen a real Christian! They ALL fail to live up to their calling!"

Again, chalk up another victory for hypocrisy!

Let me say this. I sure am glad that there are still a few who STAND for God and will not bow to the lies and reasonings of hypocrisy in todayís world!

By the way ... while churches well may have some hypocrites within their ranks ... the vast majority of Christians are loyal and true!

And Iíd like to go on record today: Iíve seen many a real Christian! I do believe in the saving grace of God! Iíve seen what it produces: born-again Blood-washed Spirit-filled children of God!

Lord willing, I shall not bow to the "flutes" in Satanís orchestra.

This all reminds me of Proverbs 25:26 --- "A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring."

People of God ... stand! Stand! Stand!

Hear the great Apostle Paul in Ephesians 6:13 --- "And having done all, to stand."

                                                                               --- Dr. Mike Bagwell

 

 

DANIEL 3:15 ... LESSON 4:

The music had started ... but 3 Hebrew young men were not phased!  They had already decided NOT to bow to the idolatrous statue of the wicked King.

One of the instruments in this royal orchestra was the "sackbut."  It is believed to have been a small triangular shaped harp with 4 strings. 

But look at this.  The word (both in English and in Hebrew) occurs only here in Daniel 3 (and nowhere else in the whole Bible)!  It is unique to our chapter!

When the "sackbut" sounds ... everyone fall down and worship!

What does the word mean in Hebrew?  It is spelled "sabbeka."  The dictionaries and lexicons tell us that the word links back to a "stem" or "root" verb meaning "to entwine, to fold together or to wrap!"  In fact, a word closely related to the stem here means "nets" or "network" in the King James Bible! 

Now we can immediately see the danger of the world's spiritual "sackbuts!"  They constitute an invitation to be entwined or wrapped or enfolded into the spirit of the idolatrous world in which we live!

Networking with the devil! 

Some people just can't say NO to the allurements of the world.  When its music sounds ... especially the sackbuts ... they seem magnetically attracted!

Samson was.  So was Lot.  And Demas too. 

But thank God for Paul!  Listen to him in 2 Corinthians 6:17 --- "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you."   Earlier Paul had commanded us:  "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?" (2 Corinthians 6:14)

Christian friends, do not bow to the world's "sackbuts!"  They are indeed dangerous.

In the epic Greek stories called the Illiad and the Odyssey a group of sailors were lured to danger by a singing group of lovely ladies (called Sirens).  Their songs had such power that the ship's captain (Odysseus) had his crewmembers chain him to the ship so he could not obey the voice of the song and music!  To have done so would have led to immediate danger and death!

Do NOT get entangled with the world!  Peter also has warned of such great danger! In 2 Peter 2:20 he says: "For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning."

Here's Paul's use of the word "entangled:"  Galatians 5:1 --- "Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage."

Satan's "sackbuts" still call!

And God's real children still refuse!

                                                                       --- Dr. Mike Bagwell

 

 

DANIEL 3:15 ... LESSON 5:

The enemies of the Bible never quit attacking!

One of their "key" targets is the Book of Daniel with all its beautiful prophecies.

Even Daniel 3 (the Hebrew young men in the burning fiery furnace) is now within their range!

For example, when the orchestra of Nebuchadnezzar began to play, all the people were commanded to bow down and worship a giant golden image, a false god!

"Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?"  Daniel 3:15

Now, as you can see, one of the six (!!!) instruments mentioned is the "psaltery." 

Now the thing Bible-denying liberals notice about that particular word is that (they say) it's a Greek word!  Here's the Hebrew spelling: "pisantariyn."  And many of the "scholars" do say that this word is a transliteration of Greek (at a later time) into Hebrew (at an earlier time)!  It's just doesn't look that Greek to me!

By the way, why can't it be a word that went from Hebrew (earlier) into Greek (later)?  Daniel thus would have been using it early ... just as his Book shows!  What "scholar" is alive today to prove that this isn't the case?

The danger of all this is that if Daniel is not written until the times of the Greek language's prominence ... then the Book is NOT prophecy ... but history!  The skeptics are attacking the Biblical validity of its glorious predictions (its very prophecies)!  Many of which have already been miraculously fulfilled!

THAT'S THE DANGER OF THE "PSALTERIES!"

And they will (often) lead to people falling down and worshiping some false god! (The false gods of scholarship or faulty hermeneutics or biblical criticism!)

Another interesting fact:  There are two words used for "psaltery" in the Old Testament! 

"Nebel" is 22 times translated "psaltery" and has the literal meaning of a "skin bag!" That's the actual shape (a skin bag) of a psaltery, a stringed instrument much like a small harp.

And (as we've seen) "pisantariyn," which is used only in Daniel 3, is found 4 times there!  (They're literally accusing Daniel of being a fraud!  Of pretending to write at an earlier time but using the vocabulary of a later time!)

By the way, if it's such a Greek term ... why is it never used in the whole New Testament?  Paul certainly would have had access to the word (as would all the other writers)!

I know this.

The devil's "orchestra" is still playing today!

And Satan is still demanding that the world's false assumptions and idols be revered and worshiped!

BUT I BELIEVE THERE ARE STILL A FEW OF GOD'S LITTLE ONES (BELIEVERS) WHO WILL NOT BEND OR BOW OR WORSHIP THESE DOUBT PRODUCING ASSUMPTIONS!

I still believe Daniel was written during the reign of Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon (600-550 BC), just like the Bible says!

The King's royal orchestra has a instrument whose very meaning tries to induce doubt about the Word of God!

Don't listen to it.

And ... certainly ... don't bow to it!

Keep standing for Jesus!

                                                                        --- Dr. Mike Bagwell

 

 

DANIEL 3:15 ... LESSON 6:

The whole orchestra began to play, including the "dulcimers."

These "bagpipe" kind of instruments (dulcimers) are listed in Daniel 3:15 as being a part of Nebuchadnezzar's royal band!

"Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?"

When the dulcimers were heard ... folks were commanded to bow and worship a false idol of gold!

The word for dulcimers here is (in the Hebrew text from which the King James translators worked) "suponeyah." And as with so many of these six instruments in this particular orchestra ... the world is only found in this chapter!  (And the Bible has 1,189 chapters!)

Etymologists tell us that this word has an unusual background.  It belongs to the family of "wind" instruments called the "bagpipes" or "panpipes." 

WHY is this rare word used here?  WHAT is the significance of the "dulcimers?"

This particular noun (along with several of the others) seems to have a "mixed" history.  The dictionaries themselves are confused about them!  Some say they are Hebrew.  Others declare them to be Aramaic.  The newer ones (wrongly I believe) teach that they're of Greek origin.  Here's my point: They are a mixture of all kinds of histories and cultures and backgrounds!  And they are mixed together into one ecumenical orchestra!  And when so mixed, they become particularly dangerous for a Christian it seems!

Stay away from such "hybrid" situations!

In the world of religion when doctrines (or practices) come from such various sources ... it's called "syncretism!"  That's the merging of different belief systems into one! (A little bit of Baptist doctrine plus a little bit of  New Age philosophy plus some Catholicism and a dash of Charismatic flavor and you get ... a lot of today's so-called "church" movement!  And it is dangerous!)

That's one thing the dulcimers represent with their "mixed" history.

Quickly let me suggest something else.  These are "wind" instruments!  And every Bible student knows that the "wind" in Scripture is a picture (or "type") of the Holy Spirit of God!  In fact, in Hebrew (as in Greek) the word for "spirit" IS the word for wind or breeze (ruach and pneuma)! 

Behind these bagpipes (dulcimers) is a wind blowing.  (Or should I say INTO these bagbipes a wind is blowing?)  BUT it is not the right kind of wind for the Christian! There is the wrong spirit in this orchestra of idolatry!

Oh Christian friend, let us learn to "try the spirits" and stay away from that which is not of God!  1 John 4:1 says:  "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."

Next time the dulcimers of this lost world are playing ... do not bow to their idols! Stay away from them!  They have the wrong "mixture" about them!  The wrong "spirit" indwells them too!

Be like the three Hebrew young men of Daniel 3 and STAND for God!

                                                                                    --- Dr. Mike Bagwell

 

 

DANIEL 3:15 ... LESSON 7:

Here's our verse one more time:

"Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?"  Daniel 3:15

Perhaps the "key" to the whole passage is found in that little word "ready!"

Those three young Jews were "ready" for sure!

"Ready" is an adjective and in Hebrew is spelled "athiyd" and basically means "prepared."

This "test" did not take these young men off guard!

They had pre-determined in their hearts what they would do!

What an example they leave us!

Daniel also behaved in a similar manner! 

Before his meat eating and wine drinking test ever came Daniel had already decided what his course of action would be!

Daniel 1:8 --- "But Daniel purposed in his heart that he would not defile himself with the portion of the king's meat, nor with the wine which he drank: therefore he requested of the prince of the eunuchs that he might not defile himself."

We should do the same thing!

Already decide (in advance) how you will respond when asked to do wrong!

It helps!

Paul so taught Timothy to ... "Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart."  2nd Timothy 2:22

The word "ready" in our text was spoken by the King ... demanding that people be ready to obey his idolatrous command!

But the godly young Jews were "ready" to say NO ... refusing to worship a man-make god!

That God for those who are "ready!"

Listen to the Psalmist in Psalm 45:1 --- "My heart is inditing a good matter: I speak of the things which I have made touching the king: my tongue is the pen of a ready writer."

By the way, we should all be glad that the Lord is ready to forgive!  See Psalm 86:5 which says:  "For thou, Lord, art good, and ready to forgive; and plenteous in mercy unto all them that call upon thee."

Peter cautions us also to be ready!  "But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear."  1 Peter 3:15

An old wise saying tells us:  To be fore-warned is to be fore-armed!

Like the old soldiers said:  READY ... aim ... fire!

It's hard to hit the target without first being ready to shoot the bullet!

                                                                               --- Dr. Mike Bagwell

 

 

DANIEL 3:15 ... FINAL LESSON ... LESSON 8:

In his confrontation with the 3 Hebrew young men (Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego) of Daniel's third chapter, King Nebuchadnezzar asked a vital question!

As he threatened these followers of our Lord, the King was so sure of himself that he asked: "And Who is that God That shall deliver you out of my hands?"  Daniel 3:15

What a question!

"And Who is that God That shall deliver you out of my hands?"

I would like to try to answer that question if I can.

We shall let the Bible be our guide here.

Who is He?  He is Elohim God!  He is the Creator!  He is the Triune God of Father, Son and Holy Spirit!  He Himself declares in Psalm 46:10 --- "Be still, and know that I am God (Elohim): I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth."

Who is He?  He is God Almighty!  He can do anything!  He is omnipotent!  Again He says:  "And God said unto him, I am God Almighty."  Genesis 35:11

Who is That God?  Here's one of the best things about Him!  I'll again let Him tell it! "Hear, O my people, and I will speak; O Israel ... I am God, even thy God."  Psalm 50:7  He is MY God!  Praise His dear Name!

Who is He?  He is The ONLY real God!  Since He's been talking ... He continues: "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else."  Isaiah 45:22   Did you see it?  Beside Him there is none other!

Who is He?  In Hosea 11:9 He answers that question (again)!  "For I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee."  He is not a man!  He is very God!  We did not make our God (as Nebuchadnezzar made his)!  Our God made us!  He is not a frail man!  He is all the Bible claims Him to be!

Nebuchadnezzar had finally met his Match!

He is soon to learn (in Daniel 3) Who This God is!

Aren't you glad you know already!

And even after all these verses, I assure you ... the half has not been told!  What the Queen of Sheba said of Solomon is even more true of the Living God:  "And she said to the king, It was a true report that I heard in mine own land of thy acts and of thy wisdom. Howbeit I believed not the words, until I came, and mine eyes had seen it: and, behold, the half was not told me: thy wisdom and prosperity exceedeth the fame which I heard."  1 Kings 10:6-7

This is our God!

And He can deliver us!!!

(That word for "deliver ... "shezab" in Hebrew ... means to loose!  To set free!)

Again I say, praise His dear Name!

                                                                    --- Dr. Mike Bagwell

 

 

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